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Xracing36



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:25 pm    Post subject: GSKA 2014 - Suggestion Thread! Reply with quote

So ends another season here at GSKA. Myself, as well as the 2014 BoD would like to hear what all of you, the drivers, thought of the rules, class, and raceday packages that we utilized this year. Anything you want changed? Suggestions or new ideas for the new year? Post them all here!

Keep in mind, none of these are official, so don't be confused if a board member comments as well. Anything made from these suggestions will be posted by the GSKA account on the forums.

    Ideas for 2014:
    Jason Kummer - Somehow make Senior 4 Cycle divisions faster than Junior, one way or another. Put large pipe on Medium and make difference only weight between Heavy and Medium in Clone Senior.

    Xander Clements - 3 Races on Raceday - Draw for Qualifying Positions, Run 1st heat off draw and Second heat Invert of 1st Heat results, with the feature being average finish from the two heats, or basically lowest position total. (3rd + 2nd = 5 pts)

    Daniel White - Three Races + Qualifying, with the first two races being heats that count for half of regular points, with the third being the feature and counting for full points.

    Jeff Sikes - Add Yamaha Rookie division for young drivers who would need ample amounts of weight. Change out the can and then the transition can be made to Sportsman Yamaha.


Also posting below this, I will show what our current drivers' plans are for the upcoming season.

    Kid Clone
    Jack Gambino
    Jax Walker


    Kid Kart
    Jax Walker


    Clone Jr 1
    Cody Hall
    Cale Hall
    Daniel Foust
    Hunter Johnson
    Emil Shulz
    Nick Torres
    Tanner Carter


    Yamaha Sportsman
    POSSIBLY - Daniel Foust


    Yamaha Jr
    Simon Sikes
    PART-TIME - Henry Brass
    PART-TIME - Brandon Lobner
    POSSIBLY - Xander Clements
    POSSIBLY - David Lawrence


    Pro Gas Animal Jr
    Connor Tebbe
    Austin Shulz
    PART-TIME - Dylan Murry
    POSSIBLY - David Lawrence


    Yamaha Sr
    Chris Newman
    Daniel White
    Ruben Tarca
    Brian Threkheld
    Dave Baker Jr
    Matt Michel
    Dicky Wilson
    John Weirheim
    PART TIME - Chuck Newman
    POSSIBLY - Edward White
    POSSIBLY - Xander Clements
    POSSIBLY - Tyler Austin
    POSSIBLY - Larry Foust


    Clone Sr Sportsman
    Larry Foust
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To start things off with this, I'll begin with my age group in Juniors. Based off most of our regulars in the division, I have gotten word of what most intend on doing for the next season. Any others looking to advance into it or are on the border, feel free to reply to this on what engine/weight package you'd like to run next year.

Junior Drivers From This Year (12 - 15 Years Old):
Connor Tebbe - Pro Gas Animal Jr and Rotax Jr
David Lawrence - Pro Gas Animal Jr, Yamaha Jr, or Clone Jr (wherever numbers are)
Xander Clements - Yamaha Jr or Yamaha Sr, also wherever numbers are
Tanner Lee - Senior Divisions (Aged Out)
Chris Newman - Yamaha Sr
Brandon Lobner - Part-Time, Yamaha Jr
Haley Kummer - ???
Austin Shultz - Has Pro Gas Animal Jr, Clone Jr, and a Rotax Jr - ???
Simon Sikes - Yamaha Jr
Henry Brass - Yamaha Jr or TaG Jr, Unsure Part-Time or Full-Time
Sam Mendelow - Yamaha Jr Part-Time?
Carson Clements - Looking to move up, unsure which class
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Austin Schulz - animal gold plate, animal pro gas, clone, rotax JR

Emil Schulz - animal blue plate, animal pro gas, clone, rotax mimi max.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haley can run either Jr's or Sr's depends on entries
Clone Jr/Clone Sr
Animal Jr or Sr
Pro gas Jr or Sr
and we are not sure if we are running full time or part time next season. It really depends on # of entries it cost alot of money to run with only 2 or three other people and she was getting bored bigger classes creates bigger desire (obviously) !! So we will get everything freshened up in the off season and see what happens.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Connor is hoping for some sort of ProGas Animal option (preferably unrestricted), like he ran the last few races. Times are very comparable to Yamaha Junior and should be a much less expensive package to maintain.

Done with clones, after running basically the same lap times for the past 4 years and moving to senior means slowing down.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Times are very comparable to Yamaha Junior and should be a much less expensive package to maintain.


A Briggs animal is less expensive to maintain than a Yamaha? Shocked
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeff Sikes wrote:
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Times are very comparable to Yamaha Junior and should be a much less expensive package to maintain.


A Briggs animal is less expensive to maintain than a Yamaha? Shocked


The entire Animal Pro Gas engine formula is centered around minimizing the upfront cost (very little can be done to blueprint the engine) and ongoing maintenance costs on the package. You don't have the methanol issue, the bore has to be standard, and you can't tape them up. Totally different beast that the old "Stock Alky" Animals.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like how the clone started Very Happy .

I just remember the Alky briggs being a lot of work compared to the easy peasy Yamaha.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeff Sikes wrote:
Sounds like how the clone started Very Happy .

I just remember the Alky briggs being a lot of work compared to the easy peasy Yamaha.


Yes, we rebuilt the Alky ones before every Gold Cup weekend (about $300/shot). We didn't before this years' Jacksonville Gold Cup, and it showed, no power down the straight..

The Pro Gas Engine we have was one of Baker's Gold Cup rentals this year. Bought it from him for $500 and it was raced 3 Gold Cup weekends. So far the more time we've put on it the faster it has gone. The formula is based on the package Baker worked with USAC on for the 1/4 midget animal program. From what I understand the 1/4 midgets are going an entire season without even changing valve springs. Baker said the the main thing that was killing the Alky animals what everyone was taping them up to get that last little bit of HP, and the heat was killing them. With Pro Gas you have to run the full stock briggs, fan, all shrouding, and stock flywheel guard, and there is even a rule that the bodywork has to be 3" from the flywheel guard opening. The spec cam is HUGE, so no more screwing around trying to get that last little bit of profile here or there. Perhaps the best part was at the Gold Cup races last year everyone agreed that power was about as equal across the field as had been seen.
As far as it being like clones, well, the big issue with clones was/is that there are so many parts sources that they are constantly having to tweak the rules because the stock parts vary so much. Not going to be the case with Briggs racing, since Dave & the guys there are behind this program (mainly to go head to head with clones that now pretty much cost the same). Only time will tell, as we all know, WKA seems to be able to find ways to screw up a marble in a sandbox.

Still too early to tell, but it seems clear to me for about the same $$ as clone you can go a whole lot faster. And they sound REAL good Smile

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cody and Cale will be running the Clone Jr. 1 again. Pro gas or clone?
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