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Brantley French



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just to add some input... i dont see how this would be fair to people that are gunna weigh in heavy. when you got a guy that is 6'5 like myself coming around at 385 on the kart and people like josh warren (example) that would weigh at 350 on the kart, that doesnt seem to be fair.
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Darrin Tebbe
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not a fan of multiple derivatives of the same class. Racing in a big class gives you a sense of accomplishment when you start to finish well in that class, and a large class is more inviting when looking at making the cash outlay to start racing.

I don't see the need to stress over the whole rain deal. We get 3 drops, if you don't want to race in the rain, take a drop. I think race control needs to decide if we race in the wet, then put rain tires in front, slicks in back and just get on with it. Or call the race.

I still think the fewer classes the better. At some point you have to decide if you are racing or riding. If you just want to ride, probably need to head to Andretti or Malibu. If you want to race, you just have to learn that it takes work and some $$$ to be competitive.

Plus, it's no fun racing with just one or two other people. That's why I race in the 350# clone class, despite weighing around 370. Way more fun racing with 5 or 6 guys (vs 1 or 2 in heavy) despite giving up the 20#.

JMHO..

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Mike Pugh
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amen Darrin !!!
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I don't see the need to stress over the whole rain deal. We get 3 drops, if you don't want to race in the rain, take a drop. I think race control needs to decide if we race in the wet, then put rain tires in front, slicks in back and just get on with it. Or call the race.


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We get 3 drops, if you don't want to race in the rain, take a drop.

I'm not a fan of drops at all.It penalizes the people that makes all the races.
I know it is hard to make them all but Me and my son Dan and Nick Lefferdo has and we have to drop 3.....I do not understand.
It doesn't affect me or Nick but my son only has a 8 point lead in the points now because of drops (-55 points) and on track incidents and scoring issues.(-13)
So he is penalized 68 points for making "ALL" of the races.....
I know that there is soccer,baseball,and whatever ,but for those of us dedicated to racing it stinks.

Maybe it is time to revisit the idea of split season again.
1'st half points and 2nd half points.
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KevinFrench



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Without the drops, the year end trophy is nothing more than a perfect attendance award. The championship is meant to award those who were most consistently up front...not just those who were most consistently at the race.
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Mike Pugh
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess Jimmy Johnson and Lewis Hamilton are leading their points now for having perfect attendance....Hmmmm....
Robby Gordon is 32 in points and he has perfect attendance.Hmmm...
I do not get your logic.
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Brantley French



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmm well i think we have enough racers to go out with the medium clone and heavy clone now. yea 20 karts a race looks good but with this being a beginners class, it doesnt make sense to have 20 people who could tear each other up. normally in a 10 person race only 2 or 3 get tangled up at a time. with 20 just double that number. especially with different speeds. i think the board and the clone drivers need to meet at the last race to help determine this
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Mike Pugh
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brantley we use to have 35 on the track at the same time.
You will see once you hit the track the more karts you have on the track at the same time the more opportunities you have to race someone.
The more the merrier.
As a beginner you would be in much better off shape running with experienced drivers than with a bunch of newbies.

BTW everything I have posted in this thread is JMO
That is why we have a Board of Directors...everyone has different opinions.
I am very happy the way the club is heading. Smile
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metzgerov



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah more classes is never a good idea. We dont have enough karts as it is for all the classes we run at barnesville.

Darrin and Mike are right on. Keep the size as big as possible and the fun factor goes waaay up!

Lets just race!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we were all being paid to race like in F1, Nascar, etc., Beer I would completely agree with you. As it stands, there will be very few drivers that are able to attend every race weekend, so it is to the benefit of the majority, to allow drops. At the club level, it's hard to insist that drivers attend every race to have a shot at the trophy.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't see what Steve suggested before he edited it. I assume it was something to do with the weights or dividing the Clone Class. We had every intention of doing that but never got enough Heavy competitors. We incorporated the 2 classes together but they were scored seperate. I think for the most part Clones have had a sucessful first season. I'm making my list for 2009 Club Officers and hope they enjoy making the decisions. It's not easy to make things fair and keep everyone happy but definately a challenge.

Mike believe it or not points system mirrors amature bracket drag racing. They are allowed 2 drops. When I raced for points several years ago we raced every Saturday and had no drops. My best finish was 8th and lots of broken parts. Now days they race 2 times a month and it is much easier on equipment and wallet.
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