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About the timed pitstops for the enduro
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Kerry Wilson



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excuse me, I hate to have to say this, but I think you all are making a mountain out of a molehill.

Back in the 90's and I think the early 2000's we ran several 100 lap races and made pit stops with I think 20 or more karts starting the event. We had about 2 crews members out in the oval with whatever was necessary for the pits stop per kart. We pitted whenever we felt necessary for gas and came at a normal pace into the oval pit area where we came to a complete stop. Driver got out of kart, it was refueled. Driver back into kart and merged at the monza when directed by a pit steward. The pit stop was not timed.

As far as I know we had no problems. I believe Rick Sweeting and maybe Steve Roberts could confirm this.

I just don't see what all the fuss is about.
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Michael Jackson



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you would all take the time and READ the rules before posting it can answer most of your questions.


Example:14) If major pitstop is required for repairs, kart must exit at normal track exit, must be shut off and pushed to pit stall, either on ground or kart stand, and cannot be restarted until back on the grid area.
This means our usual pit area for those who don't understand.


Only fuel and tires can be changed in the oval pit. No tool boxes out there. You guys make something easy turn into a major extravaganza. At our last scheduled race Sept.20 we will go over the rules prior to the enduro. If you don't like what we setup you will have the oportunity to not compete.


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Brantley French



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tell em mr jackson!!! Cool
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Barry Copeland



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You only need two people in your pit plus driver. If you have more than that it will become a cluster. At all the races I've run were we pit the track puts up a screen fence for you stand behind and all of your equipment must be behind it also(kart stand was against the fence on pit road side), when your kart comes in you are allowed to cross and work on it at that point. The last race we ran and pitted on started 32 karts and we pitted under green, you could change anything on the kart but the motor however you could fix anything that needed to be repaired. At this race the karts exited the track on the back straightaway so they had some speed coming off the track and made a change from dirt to asphalt, we also ran this at night. So you know I'm for green flag stops and no times lets race. Kerry I believe you are correct in your comments about how it was done back in the day.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a thought. We'll all be using transponders for the event, right? If so, timing and scoring will be able to verify that all karts will have at least two laps that are at least 2 mins and some odd seconds long. This is how they police the SCCA endurance races with mandatory length pit stops. Before the race, the officials time a car (kart in our case) from the instant it rolls into the pit entrance, comes to a stop for 2 minutes and passes the pit out line. This time- say its 2 mins and 25 seconds long- will be what timing and scoring is looking for during the scrutiny of the event. In other words, each kart will have to show where they've had two instances of a lap time that ranges above 2 mins and 25 seconds. Let the transponders do the work for timing and scoring officials.

Besides, in 100 laps, I sincerely doubt the winners will be separated by the length of green flag pit stops.
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Brent Harper



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This looks interesting!!! Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

never thought about that steve. this should be looked at.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This idea reduces the tower-to-pit marshall-to-individual crew member relay to a minimum.
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Michael Jackson



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We will have to look into that but just first impressions the lap charts show who is leading and your fastest lap. I didn't see any where that it timed each lap and gave a total for a lap.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

See message about timed stops in "First Annual GSKA Clone Enduro" thread. Go to http://www.georgiasprintkarting.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1830
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