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Who's planning to run the series this year?
Micromax
15%
 15%  [ 3 ]
Minimax
5%
 5%  [ 1 ]
Junior
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Senior
40%
 40%  [ 8 ]
Masters
35%
 35%  [ 7 ]
DD2
5%
 5%  [ 1 ]
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Jeff Sikes
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Joined: 14 Apr 2006
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Location: Athens, GA

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we are talking about different things here. It is true you can buy a comer motor for around 900.00 and send it to those builders for a blue print job that will cost another 1200.00 and run up front with a good driver and chassis tuner. I do know that some guys that run up front have spent 3000 for a motor because I have talked to them. The comer motors are a very low quality motor and the difference motor to motor can be huge (it was made to be a pump motor). Having said that, at B'ville, the motor is even less of an issue than the few 10ths you talk about because we have a short technical track without a huge 1000 foot straight where you need the "good motor". A out of the box comer 80 that has not been blue printed will win at Barnesville with the right driver.

Rotax on the other hand is a precision high quality motor. Sure motor to motor can have some small differences, but after running ours out of the box at the FWT on the long straights, it was just as good as any motor on the track.

I have seen the inside of both motors and the difference in quality is blatantly obvious. That is why some airplanes use the rotax and not the comer.

I personally think both classes are great. We own both motors and I completely agree the WKA national comer races are great but don't think you are going to run well without a good motor, at that level and that class a few 10ths are huge.

I think that some of the best racing this year at Barnesville will be in cadet class, but I also think that the Rotax is a much better motor which was the not so clear point in the last post I made. I also do love that start button being on the kart and not on a 10 pound weight in my hand!!!

The other thing I like about the Rotax is the fact you can use the same motor as you move up to the next age group with just small changes just like you can in the Yamaha. The comer 80 is a one class motor only.

I still like the Yamaha class best!! Tuning on a motor is just fun for me.
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Patrick French



Joined: 28 Feb 2007
Posts: 193
Score: 3170
Location: Covington, GA

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brent, I am in for upping Senior weight by 40 lbs.... Can we then raise Master weight to say... 427? That should just about be perfect!
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Brian Lohman



Joined: 29 Oct 2007
Posts: 43
Score: 858
Location: Jacksonville, Florida

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richie,
Get Angus competitve in the Cadet class regionally then purchase a rotax motor and switch it out with the K80 when you want to run minimax. You can use the same chassis. I do agree with wehrhein, set up is crucial. Seat placement, tire pressure, equalizing the pressures, etc. I made a few simple changes a couple of weeks ago and picked up 2 seconds a lap, which in qualifing at Monticello put Taylor under a second under last years pole time for Cadet. Two simple changes made a huge difference in the kart & driver.
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Alan Parris



Joined: 08 Apr 2006
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Score: 3756
Location: ATL, GA / Columbia, SC

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Rotax FR125 is a scooter based engine, hints why it has a motorcycle style carb on it. If you want a High Quality Precision motor look at ICA, ICC, KF and some TaGs.

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Jeff Sikes
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Joined: 14 Apr 2006
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Location: Athens, GA

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not aware of a class for 8-12 year olds that uses those motors. Our choices are Comer 80, Rotax FR125, Yamaha KT100 or Briggs. Of those, the rotax is the most precision made motor, not knocking the other motors, rotax is just better made. Again, I like all four, we race all four but I think the rotax is the best made and most durable. Really if you can put gas in and can make it go fast, it is good with me!

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Brent Harper



Joined: 31 Aug 2006
Posts: 418
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Location: Statesboro, Ga

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeff,
The FR 125 is the Rotax engine in Rmax... It is the one we all run... Very Happy
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Jeff Sikes
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correct.
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Alan Parris



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shut it brent Laughing

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Jeff Sikes
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Location: Athens, GA

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is the history, not sure now how I got into this discussion or why Very Happy but here is the history of Rotax!!
http://www.rotax.com/en/About.Us/History/
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Chris Daniel



Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Posts: 97
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha! Ha!, Brent you one funny round eye!! * in my best kim jung il voice*
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