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| Who's planning to run the series this year? |
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15% |
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5% |
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| Junior |
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0% |
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| Senior |
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40% |
[ 8 ] |
| Masters |
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35% |
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| DD2 |
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5% |
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Jeff Sikes
Joined: 14 Apr 2006 Posts: 545 Score: 7213 Location: Athens, GA
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:53 am Post subject: |
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I think we are talking about different things here. It is true you can buy a comer motor for around 900.00 and send it to those builders for a blue print job that will cost another 1200.00 and run up front with a good driver and chassis tuner. I do know that some guys that run up front have spent 3000 for a motor because I have talked to them. The comer motors are a very low quality motor and the difference motor to motor can be huge (it was made to be a pump motor). Having said that, at B'ville, the motor is even less of an issue than the few 10ths you talk about because we have a short technical track without a huge 1000 foot straight where you need the "good motor". A out of the box comer 80 that has not been blue printed will win at Barnesville with the right driver.
Rotax on the other hand is a precision high quality motor. Sure motor to motor can have some small differences, but after running ours out of the box at the FWT on the long straights, it was just as good as any motor on the track.
I have seen the inside of both motors and the difference in quality is blatantly obvious. That is why some airplanes use the rotax and not the comer.
I personally think both classes are great. We own both motors and I completely agree the WKA national comer races are great but don't think you are going to run well without a good motor, at that level and that class a few 10ths are huge.
I think that some of the best racing this year at Barnesville will be in cadet class, but I also think that the Rotax is a much better motor which was the not so clear point in the last post I made. I also do love that start button being on the kart and not on a 10 pound weight in my hand!!!
The other thing I like about the Rotax is the fact you can use the same motor as you move up to the next age group with just small changes just like you can in the Yamaha. The comer 80 is a one class motor only.
I still like the Yamaha class best!! Tuning on a motor is just fun for me. |
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Patrick French

Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 192 Score: 3150 Location: Covington, GA
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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Brent, I am in for upping Senior weight by 40 lbs.... Can we then raise Master weight to say... 427? That should just about be perfect! _________________ CRG, Rotax #08 |
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Brian Lohman
Joined: 29 Oct 2007 Posts: 43 Score: 858 Location: Jacksonville, Florida
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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Richie,
Get Angus competitve in the Cadet class regionally then purchase a rotax motor and switch it out with the K80 when you want to run minimax. You can use the same chassis. I do agree with wehrhein, set up is crucial. Seat placement, tire pressure, equalizing the pressures, etc. I made a few simple changes a couple of weeks ago and picked up 2 seconds a lap, which in qualifing at Monticello put Taylor under a second under last years pole time for Cadet. Two simple changes made a huge difference in the kart & driver. |
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Alan Parris

Joined: 08 Apr 2006 Posts: 344 Score: 3756 Location: ATL, GA / Columbia, SC
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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The Rotax FR125 is a scooter based engine, hints why it has a motorcycle style carb on it. If you want a High Quality Precision motor look at ICA, ICC, KF and some TaGs.
-AP _________________ !!!!SODI!!!!!
AP Karting-Sodi Atlanta
Sodi / Itaka / BOXS/ KF/ Rotax/ TaG/ HPV |
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Jeff Sikes
Joined: 14 Apr 2006 Posts: 545 Score: 7213 Location: Athens, GA
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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Not aware of a class for 8-12 year olds that uses those motors. Our choices are Comer 80, Rotax FR125, Yamaha KT100 or Briggs. Of those, the rotax is the most precision made motor, not knocking the other motors, rotax is just better made. Again, I like all four, we race all four but I think the rotax is the best made and most durable. Really if you can put gas in and can make it go fast, it is good with me!
Last edited by Jeff Sikes on Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:49 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Brent Harper
Joined: 31 Aug 2006 Posts: 418 Score: 4525 Location: Statesboro, Ga
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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Jeff,
The FR 125 is the Rotax engine in Rmax... It is the one we all run...  _________________ CMC ROTAX/SWISS HUTLESS
CMC KARTS |
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Jeff Sikes
Joined: 14 Apr 2006 Posts: 545 Score: 7213 Location: Athens, GA
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Correct. |
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Alan Parris

Joined: 08 Apr 2006 Posts: 344 Score: 3756 Location: ATL, GA / Columbia, SC
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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shut it brent
-AP _________________ !!!!SODI!!!!!
AP Karting-Sodi Atlanta
Sodi / Itaka / BOXS/ KF/ Rotax/ TaG/ HPV |
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Jeff Sikes
Joined: 14 Apr 2006 Posts: 545 Score: 7213 Location: Athens, GA
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Chris Daniel
Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Posts: 97 Score: 984
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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Ha! Ha!, Brent you one funny round eye!! * in my best kim jung il voice* |
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