| Search | Memberlist | Forum Register | Profile | Log in to check your private messages | Log in |
Good Bye, DrChip!
New Ruling for FL, FYI

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    GSKA Forum Index -> Discussion
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Chuck McCue
Banned User


Joined: 10 Sep 2006
Posts: 430
Score: 5102


PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:30 am    Post subject: New Ruling for FL, FYI Reply with quote

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/search/content/gen/ap/FL_Injured_Children.html
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Rick



Joined: 29 Nov 2006
Posts: 529
Score: 5814
Location: Stockbridge, Ga.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like Florida doesn't believe in PERSONAL RESPOSIBILITY any longer.
IMO if you don't think a facility is safe or if you fear injury there is a simple solution.......LEAVE!!!!
RS
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Clay Lovejoy



Joined: 21 Apr 2006
Posts: 81
Score: 837


PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought many times over the years about buying the track from Rick. This is the main reason that I never did. You can't buy enough insurance. No winners.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Rick



Joined: 29 Nov 2006
Posts: 529
Score: 5814
Location: Stockbridge, Ga.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clay Lovejoy wrote:
I thought many times over the years about buying the track from Rick. This is the main reason that I never did. You can't buy enough insurance. No winners.

Yeah right, the real reason was your fear of divorce court Laughing
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
jeff bacon



Joined: 04 Dec 2007
Posts: 721
Score: 15329
Location: LOGANVILLE GA

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This article emphasizes how critical it is to "follow the rules". If the club follows the rules of the WKA and the NKA (our insurer) and exercises due diligence with safety, then the organization should be alright. This ruling is also more of an issue for "concession" type of businesses, where a parent may not have a full grasp on the dangers that are faced. Every parent that races with the GSKA understands that racing can be dangerous. But this may be a time to revisit the idea of improving safety at Barnesville. There are number of places that plastic barriers could be used. The number one task for the Board has always been safety first and racing after that. I said before that Extreme Karting is willing to buy 4 barriers. I think they are about $50 each. The track would probably need about 150 to 200 barriers do a good job.
_________________
Jeff Bacon
770.315.2750
jeffbacon@comcast.net
www.jeffsgarageandspeedshop.com
www.gakartsales.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Matt Tilden



Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Posts: 34
Score: 366


PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those interested in reading the actual FL S. Ct. Opinion:

http://www.floridasupremecourt.org/decisions/2008/sc07-1739.pdf

This case will have significant commercial impact; the majority of which will undoubtedly be borne by us, the consumers. Liability waivers (especially for minors) provide a powerful layer of risk protection. When the ability to enforce these waivers is stripped away, insurance premiums increase exponentially to reflect the additional amount of risk. Alternatively, insurance companies can decide the risk is too high to issue a policy at all (especially true when minors are involved).

Result: Karting just got more expensive in Florida and/or the number of venues will decrease.

The only governmental entity that can change this now is the Florida Legislature.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Ihor Bilyy
Site Admin


Joined: 10 Apr 2006
Posts: 1779
Score: 29431
Location: Canton, GA

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't understand how this can be.
If boy is coming to a skate park for one hour ($20) driving on his skateboard with his parent and parent's permission, he will need expensive insurance to do so? And then what? State is protecting children or just want to look good?
How about ice rinks, bumper boats, basically anything in an amusement park? This legislation is crazy. Looks like the only safe activity for a child is reading a book at home until he/she is 18.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Darrin Tebbe
Information Technology


Joined: 02 Jun 2007
Posts: 1021
Score: 28945
Location: Brooks, GA

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ihor Bilyy wrote:
I don't understand how this can be.
If boy is coming to a skate park for one hour ($20) driving on his skateboard with his parent and parent's permission, he will need expensive insurance to do so? And then what? State is protecting children or just want to look good?
How about ice rinks, bumper boats, basically anything in an amusement park? This legislation is crazy. Looks like the only safe activity for a child is reading a book at home until he/she is 18.


I don't think it will take long for this to be overturned. Think about the theme park industry in Florida. No way they stand still on this one.

DT
_________________
Darrin Tebbe
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Ihor Bilyy
Site Admin


Joined: 10 Apr 2006
Posts: 1779
Score: 29431
Location: Canton, GA

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

here is from one judge who was against it:

The importance of this issue cannot be overstated because it affects so many
youth activities and involves so much monetary exposure. Bands, cheerleading
squads, sports teams, church choirs, and other groups that often charge for their
activities and performances will not know whether they are a commercial activity
because of the fees and ticket sales. How can these groups carry on their activities
that are so needed by youth if the groups face exposure to large damage claims
either by paying defense costs or damages? Insuring against such claims is not a
realistic answer for many activity providers because insurance costs deplete
already very scarce resources. The majority’s decision seems just as likely to force
small-scale activity providers out of business as it is to encourage such providers to
obtain insurance coverage.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Chuck McCue
Banned User


Joined: 10 Sep 2006
Posts: 430
Score: 5102


PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt Tilden wrote:

The only governmental entity that can change this now is the Florida Legislature.


Matt,
How much does that cost? Smile
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    GSKA Forum Index -> Discussion All times are GMT - 5 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

Powered by yyBB © 2008 yycomp. © 2007-2011 YYCOMP