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2014-08-09 13:00:00 GMT+00:00
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amax20



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i believe the class you are looking for would be called "unlimited". That is actually offered at b-ville. we will be watching with interest. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing awefully small track for an unlimited. Should make it fun. hahahaha
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dw, haddock, lunati, jolly, vetter, plus 10 others all raced unlimiteds on the small track and put on one h--- of a show. plenty of room for 2 gokarts.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember the race mid 90's where Jolly got together with someone in the dogleg and Jollys kart went flipping way in the air and Jolly got out of kart and got in the face of the other driver.
It was unreal...Do not even know how he got up.
The winter nationals was awesome.
Glad I had a chance to be a part of it.
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Daniel White



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

clarence wrote:
Daniel White wrote:
Yes, I have a thought. Equal engines, equal tires, with tuning and driving making the difference.

ROTAX

Oh yeah, it has its own national championship (actually 2 for adults, senior and masters), its own winter series (in nearby FL) and can compete in TAG classes as well.

the last I checked, a rotax is ex pensive!


You can get used (but good) equipment for $3500-4000. I got my Sodi with an absolutely fresh rebuild (worth over a thousand bucks) for $4200. Probably not much different than a used shifter kart.

Because the motor doesn't rev like other TAG motors (16-17,000 for PRDs and Leopards, while Rotax is 13,500-14,000), the maintenance intervals are significantly longer. This nullifies, to a large extent, the high cost of a new motor (about $3600).

But I hear you when you say you like to tinker and do your own thing. That's cool. That's a different kind of competitive endeavor. For me, I'd hate it if someone was just a flat better engineer than I was, or had more money / time to devote to developing his kart, even though I felt as if our driving talent was even. With Rotax, I pretty know exactly where I stand, and can blame no one but the man in the mirror.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love the rotax, don't get me wrong. Is it a sealed motor? If it is, that means to me that you are at the mercy of an approved sevice center or builder and are not allowed to do the work yourself. hence the price issue.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it's sealed. About 6 months ago, the price went from $2900 to $3600.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can rebuild my moto engine myself for $200 to $300. I like that alot. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes, it's sealed. About 6 months ago, the price went from $2900 to $3600.

Life is not fair....You guys are loaded . Sad
That's like 36 clone motors !!! Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, its not. First of all, almost all of you bought couple of them and some bought "fixed" clone from some of you who know how to "fix" it. So you can easily say, you have $500 in clone engine. You can find used rotax, in better condition than stock clone, for around $1800, including clutch (how much is clutch for clone? add it to the price).

BTW Honda GX270 or GX200 in rental facilities usually have running timer, I've seen over 20000 minutes (333 hours) on them. When clones will have at least 50 hours on them, then we can evaluate reliability. Another BTW, how long they will continue to produce them? Who can say engines will be produced and their price stays the same so you can just buy another one when current broke or degrade performance?
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